Hey, Athletes! Have you been thinking about purchasing a wearable for your training sessions? Tune into this week’s episode to hear all about wearables and how you should go about choosing which one is right for you.Â
Episode 42 of The Garage Gym Athlete Podcast is up!
WEARABLES (Garmin, Apple Watch, WHOOP, FitBit, Polar, etc.)
In this week’s episode, we catch up with Jerred, Joe, and Ashley. The coaches are tackling over a dozen studies this week on wearables. Each study is on different wearables, and the coaches give their takeaways on the studies as a whole. In light of the subject, the coaches talk about their reasoning behind why they own wearables. Each talk about what they like and don’t like about wearables and how you should choose which one is right for you. This week’s MYS workout is called Old McDonald and the coaches go over where they think you’ll “meet yourself†on this one!Â
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N THIS 63-MINUTE EPISODE WE DISCUSS:
- Wearables
- Old McDonaldÂ
- Studies on WearablesÂ
- Fat and Sugar-The Good, The Bad, and The UglyÂ
- New Equipment for Garage Gym
- Killing Comfort Book-It’s Getting Close!Â
- Updates and Announcements
- And A LOT MORE!!
Diving Deeper…Â
If you want to go a little bit deeper on this episode, here are some links for you:Â
Studies of the WeekÂ
Garage Gym Athlete Workout of the WeekÂ
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To becoming better!
Jerred
Transcript:Â
[0:59] One. All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the garage. A mathlete podcast. Jared Moon here with Ashley Hicks. How’s it going? Actually, hey, gone good.
And Joe Courtney, What’s up, Joe? Louis, We’re gonna get to it. So updates, Joe, How’s life?
I, uh Yeah, another day, whatever day it is.
Aren’t they all just kind of the same? Basically, Yeah. I mean, we just had Easter.
I mean, I definitely knew it was Easter on Easter, but leading up to Easter, I’d had no idea.
There I go. Yeah, Happy Easter this weekend. I’m like, Oh, yeah, just every. Like, there are normally things that start to indicate these things for me.
You know, whether it’s ah, you know, my kids school, a church schedule, whatever it is. But like, none of those things are happening right now, so I was like, Oh, yeah, yeah, Easter.
Uh, Anyway, this pandemics were It’s got me all jacked up. All the days are very much ground hog day right now.
Yeah, and ah, no kids. It’s even more so just me and my brother.
[1:59] So that is that it just things were going and you got nothing else, but I mean, there’s Ah, I don’t talk about this for about a week or two about two weeks ago.
So my brother got a rotter water rower here. So I’ve been using that, which is kind of weird, but it’s for a water rower. It’s actually pretty good.
As far as county. The meters go on basing. When I did like 500 meter warm up rose, they’re pretty close to what? My normal concept, too. So that’s pretty good.
It’s still like the handle is different. It still pulls feeling kind of different, but pacing pretty much right on. So that’s still pretty good to use.
And then shortly after that, his girlfriend, who else lives here, got a spin bike so I can spin again.
That’s amazing how you just went from, like, I got nothing.
[2:42] I don’t know what I’m gonna do to like the people you’re currently living with in the interim guy exercise equipment. I just inspire greatness.
Yeah, that’s a very awesome You don’t have to throw down any cash. Did you know spirit about new running shoes? That’s about it. Even though the weather is kind of in and out and crappy and weird in Maryland, but crappy for me, that is at least your brand. Did you go with?
I got the same exact new balance ones that I had before, But just like a newer generation, Yes, they were great in the fifth grade.
And once you get to shoot you like man like Nano’s for me for, like, whatever. How many ever years And now my running shoes air those Ah, ultra.
I don’t even know the brand after that, but they’re ultras, and I will probably only, like, used, like, order that version every year for running shoes because I really, really enjoy.
And I under Nano’s from the sale you sent us? Yeah, I got my name. So that was a great deal.
Sorry. Podcast listeners, We don’t share that, but Reebok’s on 50% off, and it was amazing sponsors.
Sorry. Get me. I’m not sponsored. That’s why I wanna share it. Actually. How’s life.
[3:46] Good. So everybody else just finished. Fat and sugar last meet yourself Saturday and kind of funny about what we’re talking about today because my wearable failed me.
And it’s interesting. Yeah, this interesting.
Anyways Ah, and then I was having all sorts of issues. So I guess my best was a little too loose.
Your comments after you finish your kind of funny I was very upset. I definitely got hit in the back of the head multiple times by my vest.
And so as I’m doing my power walk for my zone, too. I am trying to tighten my best as much as I possibly can. So I’m like, I will not take this vest off.
And finally I had to take it off as I’m walking hold my best, tightened the sides, put it back on.
And then I’m like, talking to my watch because I’m upset it.
And lots of people were outside on Saturday too. So a lot of people said I probably lost my mind because here I am, power walking with a vest like I’m not even running.
[4:46] And, uh and then yeah. So, thankfully, I was able to tighten the best down so it stop hitting me in the head, but I still finished.
Still went with it. I have no clue what my actual non penalty penalty Burpees were.
So I just went with 100. Justo Hey, whatever Mona’s, we’ll just do the work. So what they did, you gotta done And that’s I was an early lesson learned for me, and Murph was like, You want the vest as tight as it can possibly go.
Like what? You know it it’s gonna get uncomfortable.
[5:18] Mainly for me was when I would run on Murph like I didn’t want it to, like, move at all when I was running as fast I could for a mile, like in.
So I didn’t run into that problem. But yeah, if it’s loose, I could see that jumping all over the place and not being a fun experience on a Burpee pull up. Yeah, fresher.
And my last, sir, just finally starting to calm down. They were a little sore because with the vest during the Burpee pull ups, but and then we got some new. We’re getting some new dumbbells in.
It’s the thing is the kind you have, Jared, where you can turn the knob and pool isn’t the Bowflex ones.
Uh, it’s not that exact brand, but it’s exactly it’s kind of like that.
I wish I liked the Bowflex ones, but they only go up to, like, 52 a half pounds, and that’s my biggest beef with them. It’s because that’s not I mean, that’s heavy enough for most things. But some things it’s just not. And so I wish I would have done like power blocks. I think they go quite a bit heavier.
[6:12] We didn’t pay $1500 or whatever the price gouging thing is going on for that. I’ve seen from Facebook Marketplace for this.
No, I’m not. No, I’m not buying any exercise equipment during the pandemic.
I’m pretty set. So they actually had a sale, which is why worry about it.
So I found it on online. I think it’s like 100 and 50 bucks plus free shipping. That’s huge. Yeah.
[6:34] We’ll update for me. This one. I only really have one. Well, to the right. 2nd 1 down.
All right. The book killing comfort book. You’re gonna start hearing a lot more about this.
Like I said, I didn’t want to announce when the official date was because too many other people had things to do that weren’t me.
Like if it’s me and I’m the only person responsible or even if it was Joe are actually who like we’re doing it because I know their work at the car quickly.
You guys could get things done like I’d be more confident. But considering I’m working with people I haven’t worked with before in some of these areas, I’m not gonna commit to something I’m but they’re really close to finish and on what they need to do. So it’s looking like mid May.
Mid May is what we’re shooting for. And the next podcast episode should have the exact date.
And if I got pushed for some reason because of people not finishing things, I’ll let you know. But it should be mid May exact date. Next podcast up sodas is my plan. So that’s a book update.
Can’t wait to get that guy out to you guys.
Second thing, this is pretty recent. This is as of today.
[7:36] So Hunter McIntyre, if you guys are familiar with Hunter McIntyre, he, uh I think I mean, I don’t know a ton about him.
I know that he’s like professional Spartan Racer.
And then he competed the CrossFit games. We’ve got eliminated very early.
Um, so he’s not like a pure across that games athlete.
Ah, like a Mat Fraser type. He’s more of Spartan who’s also really fitting. Did well, the CrossFit games were placed in a certain across the games.
[8:03] Um, he said he’s going for the Murph world record on his instagram account.
Some, uh, some people posted in our Facebook group just because people know my history with Murph, Murph, times, whatever.
And then someone actually commented on instagram his instagram account like, Hey, you need to, like, probably contact Jared Moon because he does mercy fast.
And so he he messaged me. We exchange information and of having a phone call with him talking about, um, Murph.
And he’s like, Dude, are these like your times legit?
Or is this like, Yes, um, and, uh He was just checking and I was like, They’re legit.
Ah, and he’s like, he’s like, Okay, like, I didn’t want to, like go and do this and try and set up an official Could it be official world record for him?
He’s like getting Guinness and everything on he said.
I didn’t want to, like, set the world record and then you just like, smash it, you know, a few weeks later, I was like, Well, that’s my plan if you if you go through with it you know, just kind of teasing and back forth.
He’s a really cool guy and ah, you know, we had a good conversation about It’s not like, ah, a rivalry or anything.
He was just like he was unaware of anyone who could do math Murph really fast. And so he was looking. He was confirming that, you know, I’m I’m legitimate and, ah, I mean, I don’t have it.
[9:22] Sanctioned by anybody, but I wouldn’t mind doing that at all.
And so anyway, my plan Here’s I’ve been thinking about it ever since I talked to him.
I’m gonna let him set it help. He will probably take the world record.
Um, I’m thinking he’s gonna hit like I don’t Something sub 30. He’s going on partitioned. So that does go a little bit faster. Like my all of my fastest times are super partitioned. 20 rounds.
He will probably take the world record. I’m going to see I already. I already let me know what some of those times were for UNP artist, and I’m gonna start trying. I’m gonna try this Saturday.
I thought Murph was over. I’m gonna try this Saturday. See what my time is on partitioned right now.
And if I think that I can beat him, I’ll let him set the record.
And then this fall, I will try and beat his record if he sets it soon. And if you’re like, why this fall?
[10:14] Well, I live in Texas, and I don’t have a lot of time left before it gets ridiculously hot here.
And having done two years of Murph every every Saturday.
I know for a fact. Once the temperature once it’s like 60% humidity or greater plus 95 degrees and grader at the same time in Dallas.
I cannot PR and Murph. I can’t even come close like it adds like 3 to 5 minutes to my time. One’s temperature gets up, and so that would be the realistic, like if I go for it.
And so I might be trying to beat his official world record if it happens, which it probably will, but probably not till the fall. And that’s if I think that I can do. And the reason I never officially went for a world record is because of stuff like this.
Like I, I’m not a professional athlete, like whatever you guys may think.
Like, I get $0 for being fit in this company like I enjoy being fit.
I enjoy working hard, but everything I do, too, like facilitate garage maffly actually included, Joe included, does not involve working out. It’s a part of our company culture, but it’s not required like we don’t we’re not freshen. Athletes were not.
I’m not posting my six pack or training log on Instagram like and I never wanted a company like that that revolved around how fit I was.
[11:32] And so anyway, I thought, like of oppression, athlete came around like 100 McIntyre that they would just smash my time anyway.
But now that I’m kind of seeing some of those times, I’m like, well.
[11:44] Maybe Maybe I could. I mean, I only do it. He’s training hard core. I’m like I’m if I started training for it, Go back to once a week on Saturday. I wouldn’t go on the hard to kill track once a week on Saturday.
I’m not talking about every Saturday. So actually shaking her head, anyone listening? I’m not committing to that again. That’s not what I’m saying.
What I’m saying is about 10 weeks out from my attempt or 12 weeks out for my attempt, I would start doing it every Saturday, and that’s the only thing that I would change.
I’m not gonna change my training program to the Murph training program, but, yeah, thought I was done.
I thought I was done with Murph, but maybe it’s Ah, it’s coming back.
So that’s my long update about me and 100 McIntyre kind of funny.
[12:26] We believe in you. You can do it. Yeah, well, see, I mean, I’m definitely he will work harder. I will probably be smarter about the training.
Is there a like world record currently from Earth?
I don’t know if it’s official Guinness or if he’s just talking about Josh Bridges. Time he said It was like 33. 40 is what he posted. And it could be Josh Bridges time from the game because that was a sanctioned event.
There was a judge present. So anybody, even myself, included. Anything I say is like, is it?
You know you can’t hold it to anything like, you know, And that’s why he wanted to talk to me, to see if it was like, even a real thing.
Like, I mean, I don’t know what I would stand to gain sitting around in my garage, lying about my Murph times like, hasn’t grown the company at all. The only thing that that’s done is like made my Saturday suck for two years.
Um, but yeah, I think it’s Josh Bridges, and I know and we all know like they’re multiple people in the community. How be Josh Bridges time?
Not just me. Like a lot of VD like me. I know there I could pull up a bunch of other people who beat that nearly 34 minute Murph time, Um, multiple times in our community.
And I think, uh, you know, he’s shooting for sub 30 unp art ish IND.
[13:45] I still don’t think that’s gonna be a problem like that’s why I want to see how if he pushes it down to like 27 unp Art Ishan Dumb back. OK, well, you got it, man. Like that’s awesome work.
But if if it’s a time, I think that I can take and I will go for it.
[14:02] I’m not competitive. And anything except for this, like that is truly like the case.
Like I used to be super competitive person. And then I just stopped one day like, I don’t I don’t know. I think we do some of our workouts, and you’re always last to do it. And then all of a sudden, you just, like, crush. Everybody laughs to do because I work out at a certain time during the day like it’s it is what it is.
Okay, um, I’m a recovering, competitive person.
[14:29] All right, Well, that was Ah, huge update. Um, sorry for wasting everybody’s time with too much of that.
But I wanted to get into this week’s study, which isn’t one study.
It’s like, I don’t know, somewhere between 10 to 15 studies. We want to talk about wearables.
Bottom line, because wearables huge topic of conversation. We get questions every week.
We wanted one like, epic resource that we could start pointing our athletes to when they join the community. Were just like a go check out.
[14:57] Though this wearables episode, um, we have a bunch of different studies we’ve pulled.
I could not find any major like systematic review, Um, where.
[15:08] Someone else had already and it you looked at all the studies and compiled information about it, So we kind of did our own, but nowhere to the degree of a legitimate review.
So we reviewed a bunch of studies. We’re gonna kind of give you guys some of our takeaways from some of these studies and what we think about wearables and what the data is saying on wearables in general.
And then we’re gonna talk about what the community says because we had a huge vote Go on in the community.
We’re gonna update you guys on that and then just kind of give our personal opinions on a couple different devices s 00 it’s all about wearables today, so we’re good into this study.
So if you guys want to dive into any of the data yourself, make sure you check out the show notes, cause we will have linked every single, um, study that we mentioned in some that we probably might not even mention today.
So you guys can jump into them and ah, dive deeper.
But I’m really just going to stop there and let Ashley go get some really good notes.
Eso like that. We we reviewed a bunch of studies on wearables. Ashley, what were some of your takeaways from all the studies that we looked at?
[16:14] So I think I’ll give a big overall, and then I’ll kind of go into the ones that I just picked out.
Um, I can only so for later on in the podcast, I can only attest to apple watch. So it kind of stayed within the apple watch and picked some studies with that.
I also picked asleep one, and then I am a female.
So I also, um, dove a bit deeper into the menstrual cycle, tracking one. So, um, overall, I would say, I think when you pick a wearable, you have to know why.
Why are you Why are you diving into this wearable? What? What is it that you want out of this? Um.
[16:54] And we’ll probably dive into that deeper. So that’s my overall takeaway from all of these.
Um, and it seems that they are beneficial.
I will say that. So there’s one that talks about theirs to actually talk about the apple watch that I’m going to talk about.
Um, they are talking about measuring your heart rate.
Uh, that is acceptable for patients that had cardiovascular disease, and it came away with, um, the conclusion stating that it was acceptable.
So if it’s acceptable for patients with cardiovascular disease to track their heart rate, why wouldn’t you use a wearable to track your heart rate while you’re working out?
If that is something that you want to do, especially if you’re using zones or doing any sort of zone work, Um, and then the second part, I’ll talk about with the apple watch.
[17:47] It was talking about heart rhythms, and this is more like atrial fibrillation. Tze and it can detect an irregular heartbeat.
I know you can see that when you set up your apple watch, you can, you know, say yes. I want to get a notification of something went wrong.
Um, and they’re saying that that’s a good, uh, starting line baseline, if you will.
But then to seek medical medical attention, medical advice after that. Um, so again it can.
It sounds like that the apple watch can detect pretty good heart rate readings.
So that’s what I took away from the couple of studies in the Apple watch.
So they have watched. Does the e c g monitor that you can you can check for for that end.
[18:35] But I mean it straight up says like we don’t detect heart attacks like contact Ah, medical provider.
They have the disclaimers in there already, but, uh, from that study just like to agree with you, it’s pretty damn close.
Like what they’re comparing to all these studies is like ridiculous, legitimate medical grade, like equipment toe where you’d have to have, like, 47 different sensors on your chest.
Or like, you know, if in a sleep study like, you know, some of these air about sleep, like where you have to have all these die odes on your head and stuff like,
That’s what they’re there, comparing into these gold standards and and they’re still saying, like in the one you’d mention about Apple like It’s pretty good, but it’s not perfect.
It’s like, Well, Dang, compared, like what you’re comparing it to the O is insane, so that’s still really good.
[19:19] So that’s what I took away for that for the Apple Watch. And then I will dive a little bit into and not too much into it.
But basically, there’s this ordering that females can wear. And it’s a wearable, innit?
Um can help figure out. I think the conclusion came out.
It was like 83% or 86% effective, um that it came.
It helps with your temperature readings and can tell you where you are in your cycle. So, you know, you know, in my fertile, not fertile, you know, all of the things that you would want to know.
And so, with that one, what I like about it is it’s kind of a preventative plan without you having to use medicine like birth control, which I think birth control.
[20:06] In my personal opinion, I’m not a big fan about it. So it was a huge advocate for this that you are able to track this yourself. So that way you don’t have to put something in your body that could potentially be harmful.
Um, and then the last thing I’ll touch on and then I’ll let Joe go, um is the sleep and that is been something I’ve been more aware of this year.
Ah, Scott and I have kind of done a huge shift with down regulation without having any sort of devices or trying to limit screen time.
And, um, this one was a randomized crossover trial and validation study about effects of wearables on sleep and healthy individuals and it and it said it indeed improved your sleep quality in healthy individuals.
So what I got from that is, if you are not taking care of yourself in other areas, like kind of what I just talked About or nutrition alcohol, but a wearable tracking your sleep might not be as beneficial to you,
than it would be for someone who was taking care of themselves and one into diving deeper with all that sleep data so.
[21:16] Awesome Joe. She got man.
So for a lot of these, um, they did that really? Just testing the validity of all these wearables. Wearables are basically is there to collect data.
And a lot of the studies were just saying, OK, what wearables collect what data?
What does the best for what things. And so there was some that was specifically testing sleep as actually mentioned and how how close they get to the actual like sleep monitors, like with all the electrodes that Jared mentioned.
Then there’s also some that tested different ones like, ah, garments, Fitbits apples and stuff like that in certain heart rate’s owns.
And like there was one that went over walking pace, moderate pace and an intensity face and in which wearables do best in those owns.
So one of these, they’re just for the studies have seen which wearables were meant for certain things and which ones could be used for certain things and apply for certain people.
So it’s not necessarily a from at least with with wearables to me, it’s not necessarily this.
This one is the end all be all used This it’s more of Okay, what are you looking for.
Here’s some studies that well, due to be the most accurate, most viable for this, whatever you’re looking for.
[22:34] Yeah, they’re basically just I mean, they can’t tell you it’s gonna do anything other than Mike testing reliability of what they’re saying.
It measures, you know that. And that’s what they’re doing in most these cases. Whether that be heart rate down a resting heart rate, data working, heart rate, data, sleep energy expenditure like those of the things that they’re looking for and seeing what the reliability is.
Uh, for that and they can’t do much else, right? Like what else could they could they really be doing in a scientific study, at least?
But that’s a good point. You mentioned, like some brand names across all the studies we looked at, like we have studies on that where they use woop garment, polar apple, watch things.
I’ve never heard of jawbone like a lot of different wearables across all these studies.
[23:18] Yeah, and all the information that all these ah devices they’re gonna get are gonna be It’s a very subjective to whoever’s wearing them and what they want and what they need.
So which is good to see which which of these cannot be specialized in certain areas?
Like whether it’s heart right, whether it’s sleep or this performance and things like that.
So it’s kind of good in that regard, but it’s also, you know, that people always ask what wearable we recommend.
But it’s really what do you want? What do you need? What do you what information do you want to think about the information that you’re one team together and then see which one’s the best to doing that?
[23:53] Yeah, like you two were kind of on the same page there with that. Like what? Your goal. First and then kind of decide your wearable so well I won’t put you guys on the spot. Um, I love it.
[24:08] Well, I I don’t wanna I don’t wanna I don’t go there yet. We will, though. Probably in that in the opinion portion. Anything else, Joe?
[24:15] Now things are okay.
[24:18] What? I kind of took away from these studies WAAS Some big picture stuff is you need to update your tech.
[24:25] Like you absolutely need to update your tech because I looked at studies going from 2016 to 2020 and it’s hilarious. 2016.
They’re saying Heart rate monitors on your wrists are basically the dumbest thing in the world and they don’t track anything, and it’s 47% inaccurate. 90% of the time, like ridiculous like wearables are dumb. 2016.
Fast forward to 2020 some of the more recent studies, and they’re like, Oh, that’s within 1% accuracy of reading your heart rate.
I think so. Update your like I had a wound.
I just got a new woop I got the world three point. Oh, my last woop was from 2016 like That’s probably when it was produced. I got it very early, 2017.
It was probably made the manufacturing 2016. These companies were constantly updating not only their algorithms with their sensors and everything else, like if they want to make be in the game.
So if you’re if you have a sensor that’s two years old, three years old, like it’s probably not accurate and not as accurate as it could be just from looking at some of the study. So that’s one thing I would I would say, That’s part of the reason I got the new Woop three point. Oh, and I’ll talk about that a little bit more.
Eso upgrade your check across three different things that I was looking at was, ah, heart rate, sleep and energy expenditure. It looks like newer studies air saying the heart rate data is accurate like pretty accurate.
There were some some of the study saying, Hey, if it’s super high intensity, you know, maybe, Ah, garment is not garment Fitbit aren’t as, ah!
[25:53] As accurate. Ah, and I think, Joe, you’ve kind of found out some of that with garments stuff.
But even with yours, man like, I don’t know what model you have, you know? Is it like a 2017 model?
You know, I don’t Do you know it’s probably older, Probably five years old or something?
Yeah, so, like that. That may have been completely fixed. So it’s hard to even say, like, that’s truly a problem anymore, cause some of the studies they’re saying hurry, data is accurate.
[26:18] Sleep used to be another one. And I even you, when I interviewed people on better Demonology podcast Ah, sleep experts, I’d say none of these sleep tracking devices air really like worth anything.
And now, like new studies, as of like late 2019 early 2020.
Saying things like the whoop in the or a ring are pretty damn spot on for tracking your sleep, even the stages.
And so and so I think people need to make sure that they’re updating the information in their brain because sometimes you get stuck with old, and this is how bro science happens.
You get stuck with old information and so you’re like Like you know what I hear every single time we we talked about wearables is and like risk risk.
Wearables are trash. Has to be a heart rate. Has to be a chest strap monitor to matter. I hear that from everybody.
I’ve never once experienced that myself.
Um, I do think that the hurry matter heart rate monitor on your chest is a little bit more like robust like it won’t drop off at all.
But wrist has been pretty good and the data is starting to back that up.
And so again, upgrade your tech and know that it’s it’s pretty pretty accurate.
[27:23] So heart rates, accurate sleep, like I said, is accurate. Ah, in.
[27:29] But on Lee with those two that I would really found was ordering in woop I didn’t see I don’t really see anything on Fitbit or any all these other things for sleep tracking being they didn’t.
I am An apple doesn’t have it either, because Apple doesn’t have built in sleep tracking. You have to download an app so they’d have to do an individual city free chap in. They’re not gonna do that, so I don’t know.
He actually of, um, what Apple watch is asleep.
So sleep, accurate heart rate, accurate energy expenditure acceptable is what I wrote down.
Not like the best, but acceptable. Most of the studies came to the conclusion that the energy expenditure that it’s whether that’s caloric output for your work out well for the day was within it within an acceptable limitation.
And again, things that weren’t like I think the Woop may be the best in energy expenditure because it’s never off.
It’s literally reading your heart rate every second of the day, 24 hours a day.
And so I think, what might be the best at that I would love for them to go under the microscope with a scientific study. But, uh, those are my big three takeaways. Let me see if I have anything else. Um.
[28:43] Yeah, that’s that’s it, cause the rest of my points I want to get into with the, uh.
[28:48] In the topic because I get a little more opinion based, but it seems like upgrading your check and make sure you’re following this information like this. It all gets better.
Um, and sleep right. Sleep seems to be tracking energy expenditure. So if you’re relying on, like, an apple watch to tell you how many calories you burned in a day, maybe, maybe not.
You know, like it could be close. But what else do you have? You know, like you.
Other than that you’re gonna have a calculator online to try and figure this out yourself. I’d rather go off some sort of personalized data.
You know what I mean? Like, and that my only problem of the apple watches it doesn’t read Constant.
You know, it just randomly comes on, raise your heart rate for a little bit and then turns off.
[29:27] So yeah, that’s it for that. You guys have anything else on the studies again? Were pulled.
Will pull the link. All the studies, because if you have a specific device like they name him by name in these studies, like the video active by garment in the polar, whatever.
I didn’t want to dive into each one individually. But you guys seem to check out these studies and ah, dive into him yourself. If you’re like, Hey, I have this one. I want to know more about it.
Um, so let’s get into our opinions of devices and what we’re looking to track because that’s what you guys are talking about. So, like, what are you looking to track? So why do you wear the wearable that you wear?
And each one of us is wearing a different wearable right now? So that’s great for podcast.
Um and Joe, you like to go first.
So I am the only one that’s worn the top three Garment Woop.
And and I think this goes against my point. I just said just you you had an apple watch One point. Oh, that’s true.
And you had the original Woop and I can speak from experience now. The new woop is better, but you do have experience with all of them.
I just want to throw out the disclaimers before you go any further. Yes, but we also just covered My garment is five years old.
[30:44] Okay, so you have a bunch of four. Uh, let’s Maybe we should have thought through this a little more.
[30:52] Uh, really. We just need to have a, uh, wearables budget from garage mathlete for those coaches. And then we can really dive in so we can update our wearables once per year.
Maybe like an allowance. Okay, I think about it.
[31:06] So I’m wearing a garment Garment. Phoenix five x and I used to wear have the whoop and the apple watch.
[31:13] The reason why I moved to Garment is because I wanted something that I wanted a really accurate GPS and a better battery life.
And, um, something that’s much better for during my workouts. Like when I’m not working out.
I mean, I just used with time on our lease for anything else because I don’t really want a smart watch or Smartwatch features.
I’m gonna be I always have my phone with me, so I’m gonna tax I’m gonna text there. I’m not gonna have a phone. Conversations didn’t watch either. Like Star Trek. What?
I wanted a accurate GPS tracker because I fought with the old apple watch way too much.
And Matt, my runway too much it would like when technology fails, it completely destroys my workout. I just get pissed and welcome.
I haven’t I mean, just walk off like I do the work out, But I just don’t work out without tech.
Yeah, Usually it happens when I’m already pretty far away. Sounds like Well, I have to run back at least, but it just still ruins.
It s so I’m with the garment now. The shortcomings, Our heart rate monitor. It was Ah, Big One that I noticed doing a lot of whether its strength or rowing, it doesn’t keep up with the use. If you just run, it’s fine and hike.
It’s truly accurate stuff like that’s But once I got the chest strap Ah, the garment Chester have a way to get the blue one. Whatever the one that is, its heart rate’s fantastic.
You’ve got to remember where that which I don’t always all the time but ones that I care for especially like zone to stuff. I wear that and it’s great.
Ah, yeah. So that’s just me about the garment, At least.
[32:40] Okay? Actually, you you have the newest tech, um, on, like, available. Really?
So apple watch 5.0.
What? You thought so? Besides Saturday?
Um, I have previously had no issues with either of my apple watch. Two point. Oh, and then this fight point. Oh, um, I don’t know what it was.
I mean, it was just doing that little heart thing over and over and over again.
I was like, You know what? I’m just gonna wear it and hopefully see if it actually tracked my data And then,
anyways, but, um, I like the apple watch because I liked the different workout settings so potentially tracks your heart rate. I said, I’m kind of the correct zone.
But like, for example, if you’re doing core training or flexibility or yoga or whatever it is, it’s not going.
[33:32] It’s not. It doesn’t expect your heart rate to get too high. Right?
Um, so I like that part of it. And then I like having the timer on as well as my intervals. I have that all of my watch.
Um, I don’t bring my phone out with me anymore, which is great.
Um, and so I can go on a run. I can do what I need to do as well as have music on.
Um we’ve just been a game changer for me. Uh, and I typically right my workouts out for that.
Um, and then I like that the apple watch talks with the zone up.
Um, and I’ve been using the zone up a lot. Just toe look back and see, like where my heart rate is.
Um, And unlike Joe, I kind of like having the feature of I do get notified for things that I want to be notified for him.
You know, if you guys slack me or what not I can look on my watch and be like, Are they just bantering or is this actual, you know, work or what are we doing here?
And, um, we’re having a kid. I leave my phone.
[34:37] I can’t tell you how many times in the day I, like, put it random places. I leave it in my closet or leave it in the bathroom.
And then halfway through the day, I’m like, I haven’t even looked at my phone and I ping it cause I’m like, where the heck is that So for that reason, it’s nice, because then people can get a hold of me if they need Thio.
But yeah, if I’ve liked it, I have not tracked. Like I said, my sleep. I’m looking into that.
And that’s kind of part of my point. I’m actually looking into the loop, but I’m gonna let you talk all about the loop. Um.
[35:07] So, yeah, that’s my opinion on Apple watch. I like it.
My garment does get notification that I see you see some pop up. I just don’t have a lot enabled.
Just it’s more of Ah, okay. I see. And then I go find my phone, But I don’t I don’t respond for it or anything like that.
Okay, So just to recap, Joe, the main thing you were looking for was Inter work out our engine out intra workout, um, functionality and just it works better for while you’re actually training.
Yeah. And Ashley, you like the integration it has with other APS.
And I mean, you like the watch feature all the other features, but what else was it about? Just the radio in training, the heart rate during training. I realize, um, timers and my interval stuff. All right.
[35:53] So primarily for both of you is like during the workout type stuff is why you like the garment and why you like the apple watch. Okay? Yes. School.
That’s good. Helps me bring so I have a lot of experience with the apple Watch.
Four point. Oh, there’s my disclaimer for my experience with the apple watch Um and I really do love the Apple watch. I think that it’s super accurate on its heart rate data.
I don’t I think the week, uh, I think the sleep tracking is pretty weak.
Um, even I tried all the different APs, and compared to something like the whoop, it just doesn’t seem toe.
It doesn’t seem to be anywhere close like some of the different sleep. Perhaps I would try.
It would just be like you set perfectly, you know, from like, whenever you whenever you still asleep, too.
Whenever you woke up, I’d be like, That’s not helpful. Data like that doesn’t help me at all. Not not that you need to really jump long. You’re getting much, much sleep like how much further do you need to jump into those things? But for me, I’m interested in stuff like that.
[36:54] So it’s kind of weak on the sleep tracking, but it’s great on the in workout type stuff because it’s gotta watch face. You can see those things. There’s a garment that’s the biggest con about Awoke. A zit doesn’t have that that watch face.
Also, the tracking the GPS has gotten light years better since Joe had it, Um, and that’s another reason I like the Apple watches because, like, actually said, I could go for a run,
and it would track GPS, or it could be on my bike And I don’t need my phone and like it just it knows how fast I’m going and my current pace and I could just see those things.
And that’s really, really helpful information, like for on the fly training.
[37:31] I don’t really have any negatives other than the sleep thing with apple washing.
I’m hoping that in six point or whatever that I hope that they update that the battery would be a con.
To me, it is something I don’t have. The five point was any different, but it is basically at the charge it Every day and 1/2 I would say maybe I just did it every night, but I would technically last a little longer than that.
So that’s the only annoying part I found. Um.
[37:55] And what, 10 days? So I upgraded to the wolf. Three point. Oh, and I’ll talk about why I want to talk about my gripes with the group. So I did the three point. Oh, just cause I wanted newer technology. I thought it might be better.
I was using the whoop two point. Oh, um, a little bit before this cycle started and into the first week.
And I did notice, um, how much different the heart rate tracking was in my apple watch.
I would be on my bike for something like Steady State and it would it would like, just dropped, like, randomly, the whoop two point. Oh, it would be like, say, my heart rate is 60 beats per minute. I haven’t changed anything. I’m still moving at the same pace.
And then it would be like that for, like, 30 seconds, and then I would shoot back up.
So, you know, 1 40 some back in zone two, um, or close to it, you know, and it’s like this is really annoying.
And I didn’t I don’t remember that being a problem when I used to wear a whoop and I was never a problem with Apple Watch and now Woop 3.0, it’s not a problem like I haven’t had that happen one single time.
Another thing Joe I have it had happened with the new Woop is whether I’m doing the dishes or cooking or whatever.
I have got an activity reading saying that I had something happened when something didn’t happen.
So that hasn’t happened yet. I’m only like, I think, about two weeks into Group three point. Oh, but I haven’t had that happen. So they corrected that issue.
[39:16] That’s a vigorous describing, Yeah, that’s that’s what would happen. It would be like You just didn’t work out. But no, we didn’t.
My cooking strained score would be higher than my strength day sometimes, Yeah, and so and every chef in it up in here, I think they fixed that problem. I haven’t had to happen since, and I’ve been doing my normal on my normal chores and activities.
So now why I, like Woop, would does three things. Woop reports recovery.
Ah, whoop reports strained. So how much you worked or how hard your cardiovascular load was in a day in their tracks Sleep.
I love the safe tracking. I love the strain tracking. I think their recovery score is garbage, and so that’s.
[39:57] Something that’s people should know like and this has been my opinion has been developing over a long period times I need to talk about it for a second.
Um, the recovery feature. Your recovery score is my least favorite thing about Luke.
Just because I don’t I don’t get it.
Like I want to talk to them about it a little bit more, but they take an average of your resting heart rate.
An average of your heart rate variability over a 62nd time period during your last phase of deep sleep.
[40:28] So that’s how they do it. The reason they do that, they say. They say that that provides consistency in their reporting.
So they say, like if you just random H R V, like the Apple watch is not helpful, that’s not helpful either.
So you do want a consistent reading H R V. But to me, my last phase of deep sleep is a different points of the night every single night, and so I don’t see how that’s considered.
It’s like maybe physiologically consistent with some sort of sleep schedule, but it’s not really consistent, so, like unexamined ll for this past week.
[41:03] It said. My resting heart rate was 52 my, um, heart rate variability was like 72 and it gave me like a middle of the road.
Score was like 50 two’s like a little bit high. That seems weird, and you can look at every minute of data over across 24 hours with Luke.
And while I was sleeping, my heart rate got down to 41 42 for long periods of the night, like that’s pretty low.
And then I checked my heart rate variability with without a watch that morning cause you can do it on demand of the apple watch and my heart rate variability was triple digits. And so I’m like.
[41:38] And it’s been like that forever. And that’s this is why I hate Woops recovery score, Like so many people who use woop are in love with that feature there, like I’m green today like I’m yellow like I’m red or what it’s like.
[41:51] The only thing that I’ve seen consistent with loop is red recovery, like when your body is really tanking.
Those red recovery scores with group seem to be very accurate, but otherwise with green and yellow doesn’t make sense.
I PR things on a red day PR things on a green day.
I’ve had crappy Green Day’s like I just don’t I haven’t seen any correlation personally with loops, rip every stuff in anything else, but I still bought their new product because I love.
I don’t think anybody does strain or cardiovascular load better than Woop, and I don’t think anyone other than maybe or a ring tracks sleep better than whoop. And so those things are really, really important to me.
But I don’t I hate the recovery thing. I think it’s done.
So yeah, I think I remember when I had it. I took it with a grain of salt you known as strict off.
Oh, cool. I got a 66 today. It’s still a normal day for me.
Um, I mean, there’s after after days off when I would drink or, you know, do red eye flights, I would be in, like, the single digit percent, which was Yeah, that’s pretty accurate, but it’s still on on average.
A. Today it’s like I might snow just a small train. But it wasn’t, ah, huge different.
I’d paid attention more to our vulnerability and resting heart rate.
[43:00] Well, and it’s heavily weighted towards heart rate variability because I could have, like a 45 resting heart rate, sleep nine hours but then have, like, a low heart rate variability and they go, You don’t have very good recovery today.
I’m like, I don’t believe you just know that’s not true because my heart heart rate variability. If you’ve been tracking a lot and I’ve tracked it a lot is a very sporadic metric like very sporadic metric it.
I could have ah, heart rate variability in the middle of the day at eight, and then I can have one later in the day at 200 like it’s just it’s all over the place sometimes.
And I think where that gets touchy, dicey, dangerous.
Whatever you want to say is if people don’t really understand that like Jared, you are looking at the overall data and then they get this recovery score and then they’re like, Well, I’m not gonna work out because it’s a red day, right?
[43:51] The problem with it, Yeah, right, exactly. Or oh, I’m great.
I’m in the green, I can work out, But in actuality, they might actually be more towards the yellow and you just don’t really know. I don’t know.
And we have an athlete post who was like he had, like, a 98% recovery.
He did the hard to kill track, and then he was like he wanted to go for, like, an additional five mile run because he wanted to take advantage of his green recovery.
And I’m like, I don’t no, if that’s how it works, like that’s how woops as it works. But I don’t know if that’s how it works, Aye, but it might be more helpful. Here’s my asterisk, like for a more serious athlete.
So for someone who trains three and four times a day.
[44:31] And I don’t want to say that Luke is only for Syria like super serious athletes. I don’t think that’s true with how much other important data they have.
But that recovery score, I think, might be better for a professional athlete, because I do think if you were pushing your body that hard all the time every day, you might that those readings might be more valuable.
But I haven’t seen them be valuable or or influence any of my decisions in my training schedule.
[44:56] And one thing Woop has they. I did pull up one study. Woop was like, Yeah, you guys were great on sleep are pretty good on sleep, within a certain degree of consistency and even in the sleep stages, that’s good.
Now there’s another one in Woop references that about this female basketball team and how they all used um, Woop and what the what? They pulled from that and I haven’t seen if Woo kind of like runs away with what the actual findings were.
But the actual conclusion to this study was they found out and the players were like that wearing Luca.
Report this outta that when there was an increase in resting heart rate and H R V was low that there was a percent on increasing percentage of the time spent in slow. We slow wave sleep.
[45:43] They didn’t courtly anything to woop recovery score.
Heart rate variability like what they said was, If you have a high resting heart rate in the low heart rate variability, it seems that your body needs and gets more slow, way more deep sleep.
That’s kind of what the conclusion the study was.
A knot, your red, green or yellow.
And that’s a big thing that woop, I think, has taken away from that. And so how do you if you have?
If you have a really hard training day, how do you go get more slow wave? Sleep well, you can’t really force your body to do that, so all you can do is go get sleep, go sleep.
I think Woop needs to inverse their algorithm because right now I feel like it’s 70% heart rate variability, 15% resting heart rate and 15% sleep.
I think it should be 70% sleep and then 15 split between heart rate variability and resting heart rate, if not less on H R V and ah, I’m happy to have a conversation with him about that. Anyway, All the other things.
Awesome. I love the inept tracking with Woop, and I love the sleep.
Um, but I don’t like the recovery stuff, so Ah, and I will say I do think overall Apple Watch is probably best one.
If they if they had some sort of built in and, like, tested sleep algorithm, I would give them the the gold medal for sure.
[47:03] All right. I finally got all that off my chest. It sounds like you need to build your own wearable.
[47:10] Well, I feel like I just needed, like, build my own recovery score because there’s isn’t there’s isn’t cutting it for me.
[47:19] Yeah, and I mean, with ah, Alison, Gregor. Dr. Allison Breaker.
We had her on the better humility podcast. Few times, super smart, like I had conversations with her about.
She thought her rate very little ability tracking in general was trash.
She was like, I don’t ever don’t ever like, let a heart rate variability measure tell you winning when you shouldn’t train. Like, just go off of how you feel that that day, like that’s gonna be the most important metric you contract. And I was like, Yeah, I completely agree with that.
[47:48] So you talk about the winner? Yes, Totally forgot. Here we go.
All right. So we I put in a poll to see what all the garage mathletes were wearing and what their comments were, So if you’re in our garage amount that group it is the exclusive group for people are subscribing.
Um, but I’ll kind of give you the results. There were 81 comments as of ah, recording this, there were probably more because this has only been live for a little over 24 hours.
Eso We had people vote, um, and 12 13 14 1515 people voted for garment.
That’s what they’re currently winning. And that was the top of our list right now.
Uh, 93 people apple watch.
[48:33] 30 ish for Fitbit, another 30 ish, but less than Fitbit for woop.
About 13 or 14 people for polar. Um And then see, there were, like, four people for the or a ring. And then about 10 people who wear something else that I haven’t I’m not familiar with.
So garment is the top, which actually surprised me. I didn’t know, but I mean, garment has so many different models, right? But garment in our community is what most people are wearing. Um I will say the inner are woop group.
There are 60 athletes for garage, a mathlete and only 25 27 8 people voted for a loop, so I don’t They switched where? They’re just like me. I’m in the group. Still, they didn’t see the pole.
Yeah, but a lot of people still reporting data. Maybe people are just like me. Like I voted for Apple Watch, even though I have that one, because I think I think, for suggesting for somebody else.
If it’s under that asked me, What should you wish? I get that you’re breaking up watch?
[49:36] But, um, yeah, I think we’re also one. Because if you have an apple watch, you have to have an apple phone.
[49:44] And there’s Android users that are just led astray in life. But that’s fun. I always forget that android exists, right?
Yeah, but it was some closing, I guess.
Advice on people that are trying to pick one and it’s gonna be 100% subjective.
I think you have to What? At least what I did when I want kind of wanted to make a switch as well is right down like 33 to 5 features that you actually want to track.
You want to use this for what are you going to use this wearable four and then write down maybe two or three things that you might not like about certain wearables? Have you use one? Or if you just think you might not like it and then there’s, like YouTube channels that actually compare these and test all these out.
And I watched the telly YouTube videos. Um, I think his nose is one channel and there’s a couple of the channels that they get.
Companies actually send these to them, and they stress test. Um, they test everything. There is all the features, what they do and don’t like about him, and then just pick which one worked best for you.
And the reason why garment works so much for me now is because I had 18 months of whoop tracking, so I know how to recover. Now I know what recovery to do.
This stepmother I have are also prioritise sleep.
So, like recovery wise, I don’t need to benefit from that anymore. I’d rather have the in workout functionality, uh, and wash that way.
Apples Probably the most broad out of all of them, Which is which is still good for a lot of things, but more versatile. But it’s just whatever works best for you And what what you’re trying to get the most out of.
[51:12] Yeah, and because I kind of summarized you guys were in app in workout tracking. So for me, it’s almost the opposite of that.
It’s like, I want a whole day picture better, a better hold a picture to include sleep and my overall strain or cardiovascular load for the day.
So yes, basically the opposite of what you guys want.
Uh, not that I just use I use a regular watch for all of my You know, you’re talking about getting pissed off a technology, me trying to set up intervals on anything like whether that’s a napper.
Yeah, super pissed off. I just I can’t I hate it.
And then if I set it up wrong, and then it’s like I’m in the workout in, like, 30 seconds into an interval, and then it’s like, 05 2nd rest, period.
Like I was supposed to be in minute like, damn it, you know?
So I literally I’m the least complex when it comes to setting those these things up.
Most of the time, I just ballpark it in my head, so I’ll start a running timer on a watch and, like, Okay, I’m gonna stop it. 30 seconds Okay. I’m gonna go at a minute.
You know, like that’s that’s how I do most of my interval. So I just do it.
Ah, in my head on the fly like that, which I think would drive some other people insane. Who love that. The perfection.
[52:30] Do you love garment intervals? Yeah, I’m sure it’s great. I’ve never, never experienced it, though.
Maybe I’m thinking about the or a ring. So I talked about and this is the real brief. But like the recovery score, I think the ordering may have that.
[52:45] Better figured out then, Woop, because I think that they’re taking long term averages over the night of things like resting heart rate and your body temperature and heart rate variability long term averages over the night. And then they give you a readiness score that next day.
[53:00] So I think that I think, or a ring just in from what I know about that may be superior to Woop in that whole like, how ready are you for today?
But the reason I haven’t pulled the trigger on the water ring is it counts steps and like whether or not you’re active in a day. But it basically has no work out tracking at all.
And, um, I mean, it’s really just the sleep master like that’s and that’s what it’s known for.
You can go to their website and it’s the first thing is gonna start talking about asleep and I don’t know, I don’t on Lee won a really good sleep tracker like I want something a little bit more than that. If they did a little bit more, I would definitely be on the ordering drain. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it.
[53:36] You actually looked into that earlier today because I’m like, Well, since garments all about work out not so much about recovery. I think your ring would be a good combo pair that would only wear when I, uh when I sleep.
That’s all the price point I’m like, Well, I don’t know if I really want to pay for that. Just where is it a subscription or a one time thing? I think it’s one time fee. Unlike I actually think that the or rings may be the most affordable, wearable we’ve discussed.
I mean, I know it’s still kind of expensive, but compared to a woop compared to an apple watch compared to a ridiculous garment like I mean, I can’t believe how expensive some of those garments get, like four digits in some in some cases.
But the or rings like 280 bucks, this is 300 bucks.
Yeah, but it’s only gonna do. You’re recovering your sleeps. That’s why it’s like, right, very limited. So maybe down the road, maybe good to Paris Garment.
But yeah, like I I think I might end up trying and ordering eventually, but not right now.
[54:31] I think It looks pretty cool, though. I mean, I I’m not wearing my wedding band half the time, so I don’t know if it would be good. T Oh, I’m not good with rings anyway.
[54:43] Ah, the workout. Who wants a briefing? I’ll do it for change.
Old MacDonald had a farm. I also, uh, was the brainchild behind this one.
Someone we’re gonna start with a buy in of 100 meter plate paint.
Kerry, I believe that was just one plate. It’s just the one play that you’re using for this entire thing.
And you can change hands as you go.
[55:07] Then after you do your 100 meter plate pinch, Bye. In there is an 18 minute max distant plate, Carrie, and you’re gonna take that same plate.
And with two hands, walk us far as you can in 18 minutes. So nine minutes out, diamonds back, and there’s extra details on that when we have a video. But you can’t put on your shoulders. You have to have two hands on it at all times.
You can’t go above your head basically in between your collarbone and your waist. Um, because they’re going to have two hands at all times.
So 18 minutes max played Cary for that.
[55:40] Then you get into the meat in the middle of the workout, and it is an 18 minute as many reps is possible. of 10 Burpees over the plate.
10 ground to overhead with the plate so you’re gonna tap played on the ground, then pick it all the way up overhead and attack from ground.
So on 10 Russian twists each side with the plate and then one plate flip, which you basically just gripping one end of the plate and then flip it in there like kind of like a coin, but and catching it.
Don’t break your toes. Yes, slightly optional. But let’s just go and say optional.
[56:16] If you practice before the workout and you can’t catch the plate foot, then just go and cut that out.
I can’t answer you. Why we put that in there. But for style style points, Um, 18 minutes of that for those reps. And then you go back to basically undo what you did before. 18 minute max.
Different plate. Carry two hands on it and then cash. And in the final ah, 100 meter plate pinch Carrie.
That’s one hand on plays. The time a grip Lot of farmer should have called this one. Love your plate.
Yeah, basically are clean your plate plate paradise A. She liked it. Yes, Ah.
All right. I don’t tips. Um I really don’t want to be on your plate.
You have only done this once, and yeah, some plates have a good lip. Others don’t.
Yeah, it’s not a meat yourself Saturday, like some other ones. Like a condition. Me to the grave were fat and sugar were like, You know, you’re gonna be so taxed. Um.
[57:16] Cardiovascular early that you just like, I don’t know, to do with yourself here’s gonna lose your grip and that’s gonna kind of piss you off.
Like And just so people know when when we do our in general, When I programmed yourself Saturday, work out, I’m thinking about the little things to that might issue off like fat and Sugar and zone to Murph.
I’m completely aware that your technology might fail on you during the workout, like completely because it happens to me and testing it.
And I’m like, Oh, that’s really pissing me off like this is great.
And so that’s some of those things are in there intentionally, Like, I want to see if I can get you frustrated because your technology is not working or like all these other things in this one.
You’re just like not gonna be able to use your fingers anymore. And you’re like, this is dumb like this. I’m not even breathing hard. It’s like exactly, but you’re pissed off like figure it out like relax.
So, um, I would say, uh, yeah, pick your plate wisely and just know what’s gonna happen when you go. And it’s not gonna be here like this Ridiculously taxing one. But it’ll still be frustrating.
This is what I wish I had £15 plates. I don’t have £15.
I’m gonna try the 25 beforehand. But no, this is my little tiny hands. We’ll see how this ghost, but I like the meat of the workout like the middle.
I think that would be a lot of fun if it was just that so. But that’s exactly what I said. I said, I think you’re gonna meet yourself during the 18 minutes.
Max Blue? Uh, yeah, videos of play flips.
[58:45] It’s just like the Iron Mile where you like This is fine. This whatever.
And then you get out at the half mile point. You’re like, this is really stupid.
And that’s what happens during the If it doesn’t happen to you in the 1st 18 minute Max distance plate. Kerry like it might happen in the 2nd 1 Your deal just be like, Okay, this is done. I got to know why I’m doing this anymore.
[59:10] And you have officially gotten to where we want you to get. So also a lot of people she able to do this because all you need is one plate.
Yeah, true. Can they use anything else, Joe? Because we get questions like that. That’s true. Um, I have no idea.
What else could you use? Like a light dumb bell.
Oh, could you like, could you pinch the, uh, no. Okay. You want to carry a gun belt with a dumb bell?
Good. And if you want to carry dumb about without, like, the handle some you can do that.
I got into some kettle bell flipping a little bit on my off days last year.
[59:47] You can put some holes in walls and stuff profile fast. If you miss it. Psyching yourself.
It’s Yeah, it’s good. Like it’s good until you miss.
It’s like, looks really cool. Like flipping a kettle bell and catching it and then eventually, like, Oh, day just dropped it, talking my foot. So just be careful.
Yeah. You know what else you could use?
Yeah, I don’t think you could. Eyes that are official. Answer. No, you can’t use anything else.
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[1:01:35] The lunk alarm? You know, you know, Joe knows that the lunk alarm is a planet fitness fitness and drop the weights.
Or if you grunt it off, there’s literally an alarm that goes off and you set off the lunk alarm because you’re not allowed to do that. A planet fitness.
So you are allowed to drop your weights in our community. But we have, like, a no, bro. Science.
Don’t come here with your condescending attitude type lunk alarm within our community so you can ask the questions that you want to ask.
You can have fun and, you know, be playful and also find some accountability. But I’ve been a lot of fitness communities, even some online And like, there’s some people there. Some bro’s out there. We don’t have a lot of those.
[1:02:19] I do have any. I mean, I can’t none come to mind. Joe. He’s like I he’s in Iraq close to many people. Close one. Yeah. Yeah.
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