Episode 16 of Ask Me Anything is Up!
On this week’s episode of Ask Me Anything, Jerred and Joe answer Stephen’s question: what’s the differences and similarities to bodybuilding and garage gym athlete. The guys talk about the differences within the two styles of training and how Garage Gym Athlete can use certain aspects of bodybuilding as a piece to a much bigger puzzle.
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AMA 16: Bodybuilding vs. Garage Gym Athlete (Concurrent Training)
[00:00:00] Jerred Moon: Welcome to garage gym athlete. Ask me anything. It’s pretty simple. I’ll be answering questions from the thousands of athletes that follow our daily programming. If you have a question or topic you want submitted, go to garage dot com slash AMA let’s get started.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the garage gym athlete podcast. Jared moon here with Joe Courtney. What’s up Joe? What up? Not a lot doing another ask me anything. So yeah, let me pull it up here. Steven asked a few questions. We’re only going to do one today. He has a lot of great questions, so we will get into some of them.
Otherwise later. but his question for today is bodybuilding versus garage, gym athlete. What are the differences and what are the similarities? And I would like to know, Joe, what [00:01:00] bodybuilding man, do you have a, a past history with bodybuilding?
Joe Courtney: A little bit. Yeah. You know, when you’re in the military, that’s pretty much what you do.
And even if people tell you to work out, they’re telling you body building workouts.
Jerred Moon: So. It’s weird that that is like how people work out in the military. Yeah. It’s across all branches. You know what, I don’t have a lot of experience with the Marine Corps. I have a few Marine Corps friends, but a lot more experience with the other branches.
But it seems back and buys and no leg day is
Joe Courtney: the pants you wear in the military is so big. You can’t tell if you have small legs.
Jerred Moon: Exactly. It doesn’t matter. I did. So I started in, in bodybuilding, like pretty hardcore. My, cause he’s a second cousin. Sometimes I refer to him as an uncle. So if you’ve heard me say different things, it’s, well he’s my dad.
He’s my. he’s my dad’s cousin, but he’s a lot younger than my dad. And because he, you know, was just born later, whether it’s through a sibling and so, but [00:02:00] he’s much like an uncle when I was growing up, but he’s definitely been technically a second cousin. Anyway, he was a Navy seal and then he got out and opened a gym, like a bodybuilding, like Gold’s gym type thing.
And he was a hardcore bodybuilder. Always had a lot of respect for him. He’s a big reason I even got into fitness in the first place. We went on a beach vacation when I was younger and he just looked at me and was like, you are way too skinny. And I was like, how do I not be skinny? I didn’t know you could.
I didn’t know you could do something about that. He’s like, yeah, you could work out. And I’m like, well, tell me what to do. And he sent me, this is like. I want to say pre-internet days, obviously I’m not that old to where there was pre-internet days, but it wasn’t as easy as it was now like, so I waited. He actually mailed me my first program and it was a 12 week program of bodybuilding and it had the diet and everything, and so I got that in the mail a couple of weeks after we got back from that vacation.
And I talk about drinking the Koolaid, you know, people do like CrossFit or whatever. I did that in bodybuilding hardcore. I was like [00:03:00] measuring every body part, you know, following really strict protocols with diet and, and everything. So I got really hardcore into bodybuilding. There’s a lot of good that comes from that.
Also, a lot of bad. the good is I think hypertrophy or muscle building in general is a really great place to start in fitness. I just think it’s a good place. It’s very safe. It helps you build muscle to be able to use. later on for more performance based stuff. the bad that comes with it, and this is not something that like 100% of the time happens with bodybuilding.
It’s just happened to me, was the mental side of it. And a lot of guys I know suffer from this, so I know, not a alone here, but the whole. Oh my arms feel small, or like I’m shrinking. And like that mindset can really start to screw with you over time. And it got really bad with me. Like I always, I always want to be bigger.
Like I always wanted to gain 10 more pounds of muscle, like forever. Always just keep gaining muscle. And I’m, you know, always worried about the size of a biceps and quads and [00:04:00] calves and, Oh, why is this, you know, why are my calves smaller than my quads and just all this crap, you know? So I got a little too hardcore.
So that’s the. Bad. And I’m not the technical, like exercising bodybuilding that’s not involved, but I know that happens to some dudes and it happened to me, so I want to throw that out there. but I would like to get, I’ll dive into it a little more too, but I would like to hear from you, Joel, what do you think are the differences from a training standpoint, bodybuilding versus what we do.
Joe Courtney: right off the bat, it’s goals. You know, buddy, you talking about bodybuilding and its aesthetic space and talking about ours, it’s performance based. So with our tracks, either you’re getting stronger, you’re getting faster, you get more conditioned, you’re, you know, you’re worried about those type of metrics.
And how are you feeling in monitoring heart rate stuff versus bodybuilding? It’s okay, what’s the scale and what’s the mirror say? What’s the, what’s this measurement say? So that’s the main big, big ones right off the bat. I
Jerred Moon: think. Yeah, I think you nailed it. So aesthetics versus performance is kind of the like, that’s, that’s it.
You know, the bodybuilders, while some of them are pretty strong, [00:05:00] they’re not known for being strong. That’s not like what a bodybuilder is. They might have really big muscles, but that doesn’t mean they are really strong. I guarantee you could put me next to a bodybuilder who’s like my same height, but like looks ridiculously jacked.
I might be able to squat more than him. You know, just because PR training, performance and training, hypertrophy are so very different. And I think that’s, that’s one thing that needs to be known as, like if you’re training to look a certain way, that’s what it’s all gonna be about. Like eating has to become a job.
If you’re like a hard gainer and yeah, you’re doing a lot of concentrated movements. So concentration exercises, like a bicep curl, like a leg extension, you know, hamstring curl, tricep press down. Bench press, a one arm bench press, skull crushers. You know, you’re doing all these things and not much else.
Your cardio is normally something like zone to, for the fat burn. Bodybuilders had a figured out a long time ago on how to burn fat. And you know, we’re, we’re kind of diving into that stuff now too, [00:06:00] but. I would say that’s kind of a bodybuilding, we’re more strength and conditioning. So a lot of performance base, like you mentioned, where we’re utilizing heart rate monitors and we’re worried about intensities and energy systems and how much can you lift, how fast can you run, how far can you jump?
But the cool thing about it is if you don’t want to be a gigantic, dude with like, you know, 25 inch biceps. If you follow a performance based program, you’re going to look pretty good in the process. Like that’s just, that’s going to happen. So it’s not like it comes at the cost. Like, Oh, you want to follow a performance, you’re gonna look like crap, but you’ll be strong.
Like, that’s not generally how it happens. Like you can still get a six pack and have, you know, a decent amount of muscle mass, but follow up performance-based, plan. And so that’s, and I would say, I don’t even think I heard the words energy system in like the 10 years that I did bodybuilding. Like I’d only, I don’t even think I knew that those existed.
Bioenergetics was not something that you hear about. You do hear a lot [00:07:00] about supplementation. You get offered steroids, and I’m going down, stop. I’m not going negative and not going negative. Bodybuilding is awesome. I like it. I think it’s a great place to start and fitness. but there, there are some pitfalls just like there are in the performance world.
So anything else to add.
Joe Courtney: Yeah, I mean we do what we call concurrent training and I just think bodybuilding is a, is kind of an asset of the concurrent training. So it’s a piece of the puzzle that we use with, you know, like we call body geometry, which is similar to bodybuilding. It a little bit with a lot of super sets and a lot of different movements.
And that’s just one little piece of the puzzle. But then if so, it, bodybuilding is great to have, especially for a foundation and for, you know, locating muscle activation. Cause some people just don’t know how to. Mind muscle connection to certain things and bodybuilding can help with that. But I think it’s, it’s still incomplete cause you’re still not getting all the energy systems and all the benefits of, of the other
Jerred Moon: things.
Yeah. And I mean, just a quick breakdown of like all the different types of, of training. And I’ll do it quickly. The, there’s bodybuilding, which is [00:08:00] like hypertrophy, muscle growth. There’s power lifting, which they only care about getting stronger and bigger because mass moves mass. So the better you can get, the more weight you can move, even if that’s at the expense of your health.
That’s power lifting, weight lifting. Is a Olympic weightlifters. They are concerned about how much can they lift in the snatch and the clean and jerk. That’s it, and they want to get really good at those movements. Then we have CrossFitters who. Do, a lot of high intensity stuff, waiting in, no, no, not, not, not gonna get into my opinion as a CrossFit high intensity function movement, are constantly very function moving, performed at high intensity.
That is CrossFit. That’s what they do on a daily basis. and then there’s concurrent training, which is where we fall. So that’s where we’re blending a lot of strength work, hypertrophy. And also, Aerobic conditioning or conditioning in general for us, that is all the different strength methods and all of the different energy systems combined.
And when I say for us, I’m talking about garage, gym athlete, how we do it, cause not everyone does it, how we do it. And did I miss anything? Then there’s the, the recreational, walkers and joggers and bike [00:09:00] riders there. It’s people, endurance athletes. Yeah. I really feel like endurance athletes should be concurrent training athletes.
That’s why I kind of, because I think if you are. If you’re a runner and you’re not doing some sort of strength training, I’m going to go ahead and say you’re wrong. It doesn’t even need to be our program. If you’re like, I want to be a marathon runner, that’s fine. Like we don’t breed elite marathon runners in our programming, but I, if you, if you’re not at least doing some air squats or some like back squats that you’re probably getting injured a lot.
And if, if you are, that’s the reason you’re not doing any strength training. but yeah, there’s endurance now that I missed anybody, I don’t think
Joe Courtney: so. That’s good enough.
Jerred Moon: That’s good enough. Broad enough. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we could get into every single little thing, but that, that covers a lot of them, I think.
All right. Anything else?
Joe Courtney: That’s good.
Jerred Moon: Yeah. Do you want performance for life and you want health concurrent training and garage gym athlete is the direction to go. bodybuilding is, is pretty healthy. and so I don’t have a lot against it. I just, I do want to run a fast mile and I want that to be something I track.
[00:10:00] And amongst other things, I think it’s more fun to be performance based because you can do cooler stuff. It’s more usable muscle and performance. So that is it on this week’s podcast. If you guys want to join the conversation, go to garage, gym, athlete. Slash. AMA. We’ll get your question answered just like we did Stevens today.
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